as many of you are aware my brother who is an elder, shared with me another "shut this down moment" in a jc.
a brother who was to go before another body of elders told them that since they had contacted his former congregation they had lost their ecclesiastical privelege and that information they had is now subject to the data protection law including records etc.
when he was told he could not take notes he told the elders the same that they had to abide by the same non scriptural mandate.. apparently it was enough to shut the proceedings down until they called the "mother ship" for instructions.. they were told not to proceed with anything at this time until they got back to the elders.. my brother who hates jc totally said that more and more they are finding people quoting the law to them and the elders are backing off, not sure about the us where they can do anything they please but in the uk the dpa has really messed things up for the society.
Great info, thanks!
I think anyone facing a JC should try to look into what the law says about the proceedings, privacy and records.
You can argue all day about theology and doctrine, but pulling the law card will definitely bring your JC to an immediate standstill.
i've been giving some thought to the society's latest decision to reduce the size of the awake, and relaunch jw.org as a revamped site - intended for bringing in yet more converts.
for those who missed it, here is the relevant part of the leaked letter to elders discussing these changes.... the internet is a technology that jehovahs organization is using to good advantage to spread the good news to all corners of the earth.
consider the impact our web sites are having.
They are so full of shight, do they not see that the Internet is like a candy store and were all kids with a pocket full of money?
Before we were told to avoid the store at all costs, now they're opening the front door and encouraging us to waltz on in.
The best part is they tell you to only buy one kind of boring bland candy, because all the other pretty sweet stuff is bad and will kill you, but how long do you think it will take before you try every piece in the store?
I bet mommy dearest wash-towel won't even get her back turned before the kids start shoving their mouths full of sticky sweet confections.
And
Don't rule out Internet bashing at the con-ventions and ass-em-bleeds quite yet, I mean it's the wash-towel after all; they have to be contradictorily love hating something all the time.
I'm sure there will be plenty of finger waggling still centered on the eeevils and then they’ll point out the only safe version of this blessing from jayhoover is the wash-towel one. The jest of the parts will be that the Internet is ok now, but only the wash-towel approved Internet.
The talks will most likely be given by old farts who’ve probably never been on the web and will say something like, “Who wants to go anywhere else but their site because the rest of the Internet is only naughty porn, evil social networking and wicked apostates right?”
the past 7 months since being disfellowshipped have been filled with nothing but happiness for me, however one sister said she wasnt going to give up on me.
how nice.
we have remaiend friends and we spend some time together every month doing work which is her excuse.
She obviously hasn't shut the door on you, so be honest; if then she locks up and throws away the key you'll know where she stands.
Her words may only be a cover so she doesn't get in trouble if anyone finds out about your contact with one another.
She may have doubts too, but you don't know until you’re honest and let her know where you stand.
If then she doesn't shut you out, you know there's hope.
how many of you feel that being a jw is like being in an abusive relationship?
what do you think are the similarities?
the differences?
Great analogy!
"and war broke out in heaven: michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven.
9 so down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called devil and satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.
" - rev 12:7.
Oh silly little aposta-witlesses, we aren't supposed to ask real though provoking questions.
We're supposed to bend over, take it and be thankful for it.
That being said, I think the fable of Satan isn’t logical nor does it make sense; it’s only in existence so that the asshole that is god will look good.
Because if there weren’t a force of evil (Satan) in opposition to good (god) causing all the horrible things, god would just be a manipulative psychotic homicidal monster.
....so you didn't have to go through the process of being reinstated?
please, share your experiences!
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@ wha happened:
Yes there are a few acceptations to the rule, but most elderberries are huge grudge-holders.
In my conned-green-nation I've never seen a groveling session (reinstatement) take less than 6-9 months; in fact most take a year or more.
i was once a jw from 1995 until 2008. although my childhood i believed till saw the truth for myself.
i have since became an atheist i felt some hostility from a lot i know.
so i wanted when and why do you become an atheist..
Some days I'm atheist and others I'm agnostic.
There isn't a set date or place I had an epiphany; I just kept reasoning that God either cannot exist, or if he does he surely can't give a crap.
Any other conclusion, to me, seems illogical.
i had a few vinos...thought id treat myself after painting the shed and doing hours of planting.....now im drunk and talking shite.
probly should have gotten hubby some cold beers while i was at the shop.....whoops........ sunshine + wine = stupidity.
i put some prawns on a plastic plate and under the grill to warm for 30 seconds, closed the door and forgot about them.....blue stringly plastic all over my oven.........oh dear...... .
I was with a group of witlesses at a cabin we all rented for a few days in the mountains.
I was the bar tender for the night, but the only way I knew I was getting the drinks right was to “taste” some of them.
Needles to say I drank so much I had to crawl up the stairs to go to bed and the floor wouldn't stay still.
This was both my worst experience with alcohol and my best witless gathering.
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"if the abrahamic god is real, then he cares more about the rapist's freedom to rape, and the murderer's freedom to murder, than he cares about the lives of their victims.".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234.
LMOA!
So funny and yet disturbingly true.
i met a jw in town yesterday while i was wearing this t shirt.
it didn't even occur to me it was a problem because it is a joke , but he seemed really annoyed about it and kind of cut me short.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/mans-true-evolution-birthday-present/dp/b006fy58zm/ref=sr_1_10?ie=utf8&qid=1332946372&sr=8-10.
@MinisterAmos: MMMMMMMMM Sassifying!
